Raising the Bar featuring Stacey Abrams | S1 E8 | ReLiving Single Podcast

When it comes to iconic TV lawyers, Maxine Shaw from Living Single stands tall among the greats. But in this episode of the ReLiving Single Podcast, Erika Alexander and Kim Coles take us on a deep dive into what makes Maxine Shaw, attorney at law, a cultural phenomenon — and they bring along a very special guest who knows a thing or two about law, power, and representation: Stacey Abrams.

Meet Maxine Shaw: The Ultimate TV Lawyer

Maxine Shaw is no ordinary lawyer character. From her razor-sharp wit to her impeccable style, she brought a new kind of Black female attorney to the small screen — one with confidence, swagger, and undeniable power. Erika Alexander reflects on the competition and charisma Maxine embodied, comparing her to other unforgettable TV lawyers like Claire Huxtable, Olivia Pope, and Annalise Keating. But Maxine’s “swag,” her comebacks, and her full-court press attitude set her apart.

Maxine Shaw with her iconic suits and confident walk

Erika shares a funny behind-the-scenes story about how her mother sent her to Black Glamour Modeling School to help perfect her walk — a walk that would later be part of Maxine’s signature presence on the show. The song she walked to? Tina Marie’s “So What.” This playful detail highlights the care and intention behind bringing Maxine to life.

The Episode That Introduced Maxine’s Courtroom Power

The podcast revisits Season 1, Episode 7, “Full Court Press,” where Maxine steps into the courtroom to defend Khadijah after a car accident with an older woman. The episode crackles with energy, humor, and that classic Living Single blend of friendship and fierce competition.

Khadijah initially wants to settle out of court, but Maxine, true to her nature, pushes for a fight — not just to win, but to assert her client’s right to justice. Through witty banter, courtroom prep scenes, and a showdown with the opposing counsel, we see why Maxine is a winner. Erika and Kim discuss the complexities of Max’s competitive fire and how it sometimes clashes with client needs, raising important questions about advocacy and friendship.

Maxine Shaw confidently arguing in court

One of the most iconic moments is Maxine’s courtroom presence — complete with the glasses and chain that Erika requested to visually signal Max’s sharp legal mind. Erika explains how theatrical training taught her to use silence and dramatic pauses to command attention, much like a preacher’s cadence, adding layers of power to Maxine’s speeches.

Justice and Representation: The Maxine Shaw Effect

The episode also touches on the broader cultural significance of Maxine Shaw as a Black female lawyer on television, especially given the fraught relationship many Black Americans have had with the legal system. Having a character like Maxine, who fights fiercely and wins, was not just entertaining but inspiring.

But the podcast doesn’t shy away from the reality that not everyone has access to such representation or legal advocacy, and many face unjust settlements or worse. This is where the conversation takes a powerful turn, inviting reflection on who defends the defenseless and the need for more “justice fighters” in real life.

Special Guest: Stacey Abrams on Power, Authenticity, and Storytelling

Just as the conversation reaches its peak, the podcast welcomes Stacey Abrams — lawyer, voting rights champion, bestselling author, and political icon. Stacey shares how Maxine Shaw inspired her during formative years, showing Black women’s intellect, power, and joy in full force. She also expresses love for Sinclair, whose journey of self-discovery resonated deeply.

Stacey Abrams joining the podcast conversation

Stacey offers invaluable insight into pushing back against underestimation by being unapologetically authentic. “If you’re gonna like me or dislike me, I’m just gonna let you do it for real,” she says, emphasizing the power of showing up as your true self in any field, especially law and politics.

She also dives into the tough decisions leaders face about when to fight and when to hold back, weighing risks and consequences with wisdom and intention. Stacey highlights resilience as a communal resource, borrowing courage from others and lending strength in return — a beautiful cycle of empowerment.

Weaving Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) into Storytelling

Stacey Abrams is not only a political powerhouse but also a prolific writer of romance, legal thrillers, and nonfiction. She discusses how DEI principles are embedded throughout her work, creating stories where people of color are fully represented without exclusion or tokenism. She stresses that DEI is America’s pride rising, a superpower that strengthens the nation’s foundation.

Her upcoming legal thriller, Code of Justice, explores themes like artificial intelligence and veterans’ issues while continuing to weave in DEI elements. Stacey’s storytelling approach exemplifies how narratives can reflect the full complexity of identities and experiences.

Lessons From Maxine Shaw & Stacey Abrams: Ambition, Authenticity, and Assembly Required

Both Maxine Shaw and Stacey Abrams embody ambition and intention. Stacey advises young people to embrace ambition, accept fear, and find allies willing to open doors and walk through them together. Her podcast, Assembly Required, captures this ethos — acknowledging broken systems while empowering listeners to rebuild piece by piece.

Erika and Kim close the episode with deep admiration for Stacey, celebrating her brilliant mind and generous spirit. It’s clear that the legacy of Maxine Shaw lives on in real-world justice fighters like Stacey Abrams, inspiring us all to raise the bar.

Behind the Laughs: Comedy, Physicality, and Influence

Before wrapping up, Erika and Kim reflect on the comedy craft behind Maxine’s character. Erika reveals that her iconic eye bulges and physical comedy were intentional tools to emphasize Maxine’s personality. Their influences range from Carol Burnett and Lucille Ball to Bugs Bunny’s animation principles like “stretch and squash.”

They highlight how comedy is both nature and nurture — an innate connection we cultivate through life experience and study. This blend of sharp wit and physical humor made Maxine truly unforgettable.

Final Thoughts

This episode of the ReLiving Single Podcast is a masterclass in storytelling, representation, and cultural legacy. Through the lens of Maxine Shaw’s courtroom battles and Stacey Abrams’ real-life advocacy, we see the power of authenticity, resilience, and intention. It reminds us why Living Single remains a touchstone for Black excellence on screen and beyond.

Want to dive deeper? Pre-order Stacey Abrams’ Code of Justice and learn more about the Maxine Shaw Effect and Stacey’s American Pride Rises Network. The fight for justice and representation continues — and we’re all invited.

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Khadijah takes cake to Maxine's face in a classic comedic moment

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